LNWR goes narrow gauge.
The Waterman Railway Heritage Trust are pleased to announce that with the help from the Welsh Highland Railway they have bought a 2ft Bayer Garrat for a project. All the details will come via a new blogger WHR LNWR.
My thanks goes to Paul of the WHR for his help.
pete waterman
July 6th, 2009 at 5:14 am
Hi Pete,
Is this the one that was down on Exmoor?.
Just the loco for that garden railway……
(only joking of course).
I went to Beddgelert after the LLangollen gala.
The WHR through the Aberglaslyn pass is going to be really something.
All best wishes
Graham Powell
July 6th, 2009 at 5:30 am
Yes its one of the ones from there. I think every one should ride on the WHR once before they die.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:21 am
Pete, is it No. 130? – it looks like it is from the cylinder covers.
this is great news, do you plan to overhaul it at Boston Lodge or elsewhere?
July 6th, 2009 at 6:35 am
109 Is ours I think Paul at WHR took the photos.It is to be overhauled at Crewe and Boston Lodge will be doing all the fittings and working with us. You will see why in the next few months.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Two questions, Pete. The important one – what colour’s it going to be? And how long do you think it will take to restore? Many thanks.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Pete
how about taking the loco to MOSI in August? I’m sure Steve Davis would welcome this
July 6th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
This is really great news. Being brought up on the Welsh “little” railways by my Dad I am fast becoming a Beyer Garratt fan – and looking forward to the exhibition in Manchester in August.
This is great work Pete and really appreciated that you’re supporting a project as unique and challenging as the WHR..
Cheers
Rob
PS… Assume you meant Welsh Highland Railway (rather than the West) in your post above
July 7th, 2009 at 1:22 am
As to what colour well theres only one it can be Black we are the LNWR after all and it were trying to do it in a year so it will enter traffic 2011. It will go stright to Crewe and be taken apart to see more. We hope to start the rebuild in November so you will have to put up with me at the MOSI. We will tell you more over the next few weeks.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:42 am
very nice indeed, i’ve got a nice piccie of my quarry hunslet “alice” next to one of the garretts on the whr in dinas, taken about 10 years back, hard to imagine they are both 2ft gauge given the size difference, i’ll try and find it and post it up here
July 7th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Hi Pete
Is it going to be oil fired or coal ?
July 8th, 2009 at 1:32 am
It will be coal fired.
July 8th, 2009 at 5:25 am
Good news another Garratt is being brought back to life. The WHR needs ever available ounce of 2 foot gauge power it can get it’s hands on. Have been doing my little bit with a monthly sponsonship to help with the rebuilding of the route. Fortunate to have been able to make several trips over the recently opened section through Beddgelert & Aberglaslyn. The views of Snowdon & through the pass are definately the money shots of the route. Everybody I’ve taken with me has been impressed & as we know one of the best selling tools is word of mouth.
July 9th, 2009 at 3:32 am
Good news indeed. Three questions:
Do you intend to become a regular WHR footplateman so that you can have some fun with it?
Could it be LNWR lined black to distinguish it from the other black NGG16s?
Do you know whether the availability of 109 will have any repercussions for the forthcoming overhaul of 143, or the eventual rebuild of 140, given Boston Lodge’s involvement?
Dave
July 9th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Hello Pete, what are the chances of getting a full size Beyer Garratt from Zimbabwe for restoration ? I would gladly donate to that, or is it out of the question.
July 9th, 2009 at 8:51 am
first question No as i just dont have the time. But you will see me me now and then.
Question 2. It will be in LNWR lined black for sure.
Question 3. Not at all this is a WRHT project with Boston Lodge.
Question 4. I did try to get a Std gauge engine before there are two problems one they would be out of gauge on all UK railways and there are historic blocks on anything leaving Africa. This is hot area for ex British colonies.
July 9th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Hi Pete
Fantastic news – glad to see the narrow gauge bug has bitten. And I really appreciated that you’re supporting a project in the narrow gauges and on the WHR too. NG often gets left in the shadow of its larger more popular bigger brothers.
I am the UK News Editor for Narrow Gauge World magazine, and any updates on the engine’s progress are most welcome – contact me at dlj@manx.net
Interesting web site too, but you don’t have a narrow gauge group as yet
David
July 13th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Pete
Any idea yet when the loco is moving to Crewe? Thanks
July 27th, 2009 at 4:39 am
James Cholmeley Russell – Receiver and chairman of the North Wales Narrow Gauge Railways Company – precoursor of the WHr was negotiating with the LNWR to take over the line in 1911 – see http://jamescholmeleyrussell.blogspot.com for all there is to know on this fascinating barrister, property developer, railway magnate and entrepreneur
So at last the LNWR gets a toehold!
August 4th, 2009 at 1:35 am
Hi Pete,
Great news about the Garratt, on behalf of all lovers of the WHR a big thank you. The WHR is already a bit tight on motive power, so it can’t come too soon really. Just a thought though – the Garratts are magnificent beasts and ideal for the job required, but it would be nice to see a bit more of the old stuff (check out the restored buffet car at the Porthmadog end!!) as well, on the new WHR. Currently the two WHR organisations cannot seem to agree on working together to achieve this and need a few heads banging together!! Any chance of making the delivery of your wonderful machine conditional upon an amicable agreement between the two parties being achieved sometime this century? That would certainly focus the efforts!!
Thanks once more for supporting this wonderful railway.
Philip.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:15 am
Another great name is associated with WHR. Well done Mr Waterman.
Being Cheeky as one must from time to time. Would you be buying any wagons to be used on the WHR.To haul behind that fine loco of yours. After all what would your layout be with out wagons to shunt here and there.
I must declare my interest in South African Wagons
Cheers
marcus Ingram
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